Shadow who said the ring would be an insult? My son is currently in the big brothers big sisters program and he has a male in his life but I am his parent so since I am not a man I have to make choices that I feel will be best for him. As far as the man or a husband thing for me goes..... if you are asking for my hand I will accept otherwise I am still a single mom. I dont see the ring as anything other than a reminder of a commitment just as when a couple gets married the have a ring that is a symbol of their commitment to each other, I really wish you would try to speak clearly when you respond just so I can see your point, and you never did say why you said the ring would deflect the male role.
when there is a MAN around preferrably a husband in the home or .... a PlanB, "big brothers", it resolves your boy into becoming a MAN .... a ring, ear-ring or like objects is ridiculous, for it replaces (deflects) the role of a MAN or MEN that's the insult .... you understand this whether you accept it is another issue .... ask your dad (smiles) ....
@Mary, he sounds like a hurt puppy who needs to take his anger out on any post. We don't owe them any explanation. I am a woman , therefore I understand. My son also had men who mentor him, I don't have to explain anything to someone who may not have children, therefore taking out his frustration on us wishing he could discipline his own. Men who talk like this have a pain within he has not dealt with therefore he lashes out at woman and their sons. Maybe his daddy was absent and he is wishing on a thought.
Thanks girl I thought it was just me that was lost.
people not things (correct) .... things don't love back .... yes, "women keep men away by wearing the purity ring" .... yes, it's unconscience .... your motive is right, but method is wrong ....
This discussion can remain civil, I'm sure. I believe we are able to disagree without being disagreeable. Mary and Mzjubilee2u, you are both so sweet. I do understand how certain posts may seem to be an attack on your parenting/values.
Shadow, I sincerely hope you did not mean to antagonize these women with the statements you made. I would hope you saw this discussion as an opportunity for you to present the male point of view. Some of the things you've said, however, seem to be questioning the way young men are/have been raised by these women. We don't have the benefit of facial expressions or tone of voice when we communicate online. Please consider how your words may be construed.
unless addressed, I am addressing Mary not others ....